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February 9, 2015 at 9:21 pm Quote #42492 | |
VOODOO (2375) | Just a question… The Studio Albums 1978-1984″ NOT to be released in the U.S. Read more: http://www.vhnd.com/2013/02/06/van-halen-the-studio-albums-1978-1984/#ixzz3RIuzAtwf Van Halen Studio Albums 1978-1984 High Resolution 24 Bit / 192 kHz Download Van Halen, Van Halen II, Women and Children First and 1984 Vinyl I’m curious as to how the latest version of the “Remasters” are going to be an improvement over all of these? A lot of criticism of the various remasters on this blog from back when the boxed set was coming out. I just don’t understand how they can keep issuing remaster after remaster and claim the they’re better and better than the last. Not trying to be a dick or start a battle. I’m asking honestly, are there really any dramatic, audible differences in the remasters that are already available and does anyone think the upcoming remasters are going to be such a dramatic improvement that you’re going to pay $12 per disc ($20 on vinyl) to purchase them all over again? I’m skeptical since the last “Remasters” were pulled from the US market a couple months before the Japanese tour and now we’re getting the live show from Japan plus a new set of remasters. VOODOOQuote |
February 10, 2015 at 1:22 am Quote #42500 | |
Halenberg (406) | I suspect the reason they pulled last years 6Pack box in the US was specifically because they planned to do these new ones now. Initially I thought these new remasters might be the same as the recent vinyl remasters released a few years back. ( They never did get around to Fair Warning and Diver Down. ) But I see now it appears they have done it again. From product description at VH Store…. ” Mastering engineer Chris Bellman, who remastered the original albums at Bernie Grundman Mastering Studios, was enlisted for the new 2015 versions. In order to produce the original sound the band intended, Bellman cut straight from the quarter-inch tapes for CD ” So I’m guessing the previous remasters were sourced from the original analog tapes.( which are 1 half inch???? )….and these new ones sourced from the quarter inch tapes. HalenbergQuote |
February 10, 2015 at 9:09 am Quote #42503 | |
JasonA (1118) | Previous remasters may not have been done from original stereo mixdown master tapes. Probably a higher generation tape was used, which may have been an old digital transfer done in the 80s with inferior A/D converters. Advances in digital sampling equipment in the past 20-30 years have yielded some great improvements in sound quality, at least that’s what the marketing hype for the latest Led Zeppelin remasters have boasted about. The rest of the quality in remastering comes down to the mastering engineer’s choices in levels, EQ, compression/limiting, etc. JasonAQuote |
February 10, 2015 at 9:26 am Quote #42504 | |
ron (11783) | The 2004 BOBW release had this to say about the audio of the tracks (this press release was issued before the album was renamed)
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February 10, 2015 at 9:31 am Quote #42505 | |
ron (11783) | [from July 2000]
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February 10, 2015 at 10:03 am Quote #42507 | |
JasonA (1118) | See, very vague language in that press release. No mention of which tapes were used, etc. It’s possible this new batch of 2015 remasters could be an improvement if they’re using better sources this time. JasonAQuote |
February 10, 2015 at 10:06 am Quote #42508 | |
VOODOO (2375) | OK, so the Best of tracks were digitally remastered, which makes sense. The “Remasters” series doesn’t specify how the CDs were remastered or what the source was for the remastering. I would think they did it the most economical way possible, which would most likely have been digitally. The 2013 remasters were supposedly pulled from analog tape, so I’m curious what the difference was in the process that produced that boxed set that was pulled from release in the US vs. what we’re about to be sold. VOODOOQuote |
February 10, 2015 at 10:25 am Quote #42510 | |
ron (11783) |
The 2013 box of CDs are just the 2000 discs repackaged – I thought.
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February 10, 2015 at 1:40 pm Quote #42520 | |
Dave (2308) | The bigger crime is that the Hagar era hasn’t had remasters in the U.S. since they first came out. They did come out in Japan, but even those weren’t marketed as remasters, if memory serves me correctly. To me, I don’t think it’s that big a deal about the remasters or best-of’s. This is only the 2nd round of complete album remasterings, and the last one was 15 years ago. There’s only been 2 best-of compilations, both with new tracks. That’s a lot better than some other bands. Stay Frosty DaveQuote |
February 10, 2015 at 2:24 pm Quote #42523 | |
VOODOO (2375) | I guess it’s the fact that they have been rereleasing the back catalog ever since ’96 (other than III) as either a compilation or a remaster in one form or another up until 2012. It seemed like 15 years of rereleases to finally get a new album and now we’re back to rereleasing the old catalog again. Now that I have a clearer understanding of what was released before, I am a little more intrigued as to how these will be redone. The two remasters of 5150 and OU812 weren’t all that impressive. I never cared for the overall sound of either of those albums. I thought FUCK was produced much better, but I only really liked a few songs on that album. Balance was the most sonically impressive album I think they ever did, especially on vinyl. Unless Dave dies first or quits Van Halen again, I highly doubt we’ll ever see the Hagar era albums being promoted or rereleased by the band. VOODOOQuote |
February 11, 2015 at 8:23 am Quote #42552 | |
ron (11783) | I think the biggest question will be the difference between the VH1 vinyl from 2009 that was remastered from the 1/4″ master tapes, and the same thing from 2015. Since both are from the same master source, the only difference sound be whatever the engineer dialed in. ronQuote |
February 11, 2015 at 8:44 am Quote #42556 | |
VOODOO (2375) |
Van Halen, Van Halen II, WACF and 1984 were just put out a couple years ago on vinyl remastered from the original tapes according to VHStore. If you go to the VHStore link in the first post in this thread you can still order the original vinyl remasters of VHII and WACF, but now you can only preorder the upcoming VH1 and 1984 remasters. I have that original four pack of remastered vinyl, but I never opened them. VOODOOQuote |
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