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September 30, 2014 at 12:20 am Quote #39192 | |
Panamaniac (207) | I’m assembling compilations of live recordings for every Van Halen tour up to 1998 and in the spirit of preserving taper/trader etiquette, I’d like to ask the tapers if it’s ok with them I use their recording(s) for the compilations. My issue is many of the sources I’m using don’t list the taper and/or in many instances where a taper is listed, it is done so only using initials. For example, for the following show: 1978.05.10 – Theatre Mogador – Paris, FRA [AUD MASTER], the notes list the taper as “PM”; I don’t know who this is nor how to get in touch to ask their blessing. As I understand it, some tapers are actually on this site. So I’m reaching out to anyone here if they know who may have been the taper for the shows listed below and an appropriate way to contact them. PanamaniacQuote |
September 30, 2014 at 12:39 am Quote #39194 | |
thismusicsux (581) | this project sounds sweet, can’t wait to see it. I believe (single-8) was directly involved with Fresno 78 and Oklahoma 78 thismusicsuxQuote |
September 30, 2014 at 2:39 am Quote #39195 | |
Decatone (1440) | If it’s for yourself I don’t see any need for permissions but if you intend to share, then maybe it’s worth trying to contact people for the best part although those shows are sometime back. DecatoneQuote |
September 30, 2014 at 3:54 am Quote #39196 | |
Panamaniac (207) |
This is a series of collections I’ve been thinking about for some time now and definitely want to be able to share it . This collection will be similar to “Reunion” from Mean Street Studios in a few respects but different in many others. To summarize the criteria for these collections: To my point about the uniqueness factor, the “Disco Sucks” chant the crowd does during the L.A. and Edmonton shows are about as unique as unique goes but the sound quality of “Ain’t Talkin’ Bout Love” for both of those shows sucks hard so I’ll have to decide whether or not to use one of them; we do want to preserve some bar of fidelity for the actual song after all. So that is “what’s different to the way most have these have on individual discs in order.” This is a project that puts the listener into one all-encompassing performance that hopefully will accurately represent the most expansive compiled show for any given tour. I have a good number of shows to choose songs from but when I do finally share my first project (1978), I want it (and the others) to be a living and breathing omnibus that can change with suggestions from others on this site, given this is the gold standard for Van Halen fans. PanamaniacQuote |
September 30, 2014 at 4:07 am Quote #39197 | |
Panamaniac (207) | And I know it goes without saying, but please don’t pull this idea and unilaterally make one of your own using my criteria since I’ve put it out there for suggestions (most definitely NOT referring to you Decatone or anyone else specifically); I’m very interested in collaborating with anyone with ideas to make this the best collection possible for the Van Halen community to enjoy together. PanamaniacQuote |
September 30, 2014 at 6:06 am Quote #39200 | |
Decatone (1440) |
No Worries mate, I understand what you are doing now. I personally like to listen to my shows as a whole, it just feels right that way to me … but I wish you all the best with it. DecatoneQuote |
September 30, 2014 at 8:08 am Quote #39201 | |
ron (11779) | Since you started a duplicate topic in a different forum, I’m guessing you cannot see the Trade Chat forum where you first posted? http://www.vhtrading.com/topic/assembling-van-halen-live-compilations-and-have-questions But as to your quest…. Back in the late ’90s and early 2000′s, a group of VH fans got together on a project just like this. The goal was to figure out which songs from all the live recordings were the best versions of those songs, and then produce CDs of those songs. Each of the fans would upload the tracks we thought were the best, and then the group would vote on the tracks. While the group never really finished the project, the Reunion and Reunion II discs were created based on some of the work that group did. Good luck with the project! ronQuote |
September 30, 2014 at 10:28 am Quote #39203 | |
single-8 (222) | FYI anything I make available is intended for someone’s Personal collection, and not anything else ($$$, personal promotion, etc). I can’t stop anyone from doing something I dont want, but keep in mind, this is the Only place I exist in the trading world, not that it’s a big deal. single-8Quote |
September 30, 2014 at 12:40 pm Quote #39204 | |
Panamaniac (207) |
Thans ron; yes, I could not see the other topic I created and was informed there is a gich there for some people; maybe the other topic should be pulled? To your point on Reunion, I did read the background on it and it’s the inspiration for this idea but this set of collections represents the tours, each as a whole, rather than just a collection of individual songs people want to hear live again. PanamaniacQuote |
September 30, 2014 at 12:48 pm Quote #39205 | |
Panamaniac (207) |
This collection is for the Van Halen community to share and enjoy together, not for any personal gain (promotion, $$, or otherwise); but if you don’t want me using any of your material for it, please let me know of any of the shows I listed you were involved with and I won’t include any songs from them; if memory serves, 2 of them were Oklahoma and Fresno? PanamaniacQuote |
September 30, 2014 at 12:49 pm Quote #39206 | |
ron (11779) |
I think the difference between what you have proposed and what the LiveVH group back then is that you seem to be sticking to just 1978 performances for the songs, where the LiveVH project looked at all possible recordings of a given track to find the best performance. Like you said, you are re-creating the tour performance rather than a live version of the original release. It’s an interesting idea. ronQuote |
September 30, 2014 at 12:56 pm Quote #39209 | |
Panamaniac (207) |
Yes exactly; 1978 performances only for the 78 tour; every song represented, almost all sourced differently, crossfades on song transitions, setlist in 1978 tour order; all in an attempt to get it to sound like the most single kickass show from the tour. This would apply to a 2-disc set for the 79 tour, another set for the 80 tour, and so on into *gulp* 1998 PanamaniacQuote |
September 30, 2014 at 4:15 pm Quote #39216 | |
jroundy (1418) | Sounds like a good idea to me!! The poor folks play for keeps down here…They’re the living dead. Nobody rules these streets at night like Van Halen!! jroundyQuote |
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